972 – The Atonement / Darkness Before Dawn – Walter Veith

Walter Veith will not only enlighten viewers in regards to the Biblical viewpoint and the importance of a correct understanding of what the atonement is, but also what other religions such as Buddhism, Islam, and Catholicism are teaching in regards to this subject as well.

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  1. It s not God’s wrath, that Jesus satisfies with His sacrificial death, rather Jesus purchased us back from Satan. Jesus is then able to hand us back to the Father, in a cleansed, reconciled condition. See David Bercot Atonement

  2. Thank you Pastor but very unfortunately your SDA Church is uniting with Rome and Protestants in Ecumenical alliance and you are failing to see it.If you do not care you,Wilson,Finley and many others with all your knowledge will be put to shame big time by God one day for not raising your voices

    Is so sad AND HORRIFIC the SDA Church is uniting NOW in the ECUMENICAL ALLIANCE WITH ROME the Antichrist Pope Francis and Protestants. Look at what Ganoune Diop one of the leaders is doing going at all the Ecumenical meetings. In the 80s SDA Church trademarked their name and since then they took to court a lot of self supporting non GEN.CONFERENCE Churches,and some of them they destroyed, contrary to what it says in 3SM BOOK,and the Bible I believe in Corinthians.These were the TRADEMARK LAWSUITS.They will be fully united with the Beast and his Image the Babylon in the near future.The GC President is in bed with UN and the Pope.An there is also the Spiritual Formation,worldly dancing,LGBT coming in the Church unchanged,etc.in the Church.How terribly sad…..The union started already and it will assimilate the SDA Church in it and will be a persecutor in the future…What a treason…If Martin Luther and those Noble Reformers and SDA Pioneers would see what is going on they would turn in their graves.Soon all Christianity will sign a document with the Antichrist that the Protest is over! But it will ever be over??? I entreat the producers of these series to Protest the above abominations!! Is there anymore belief in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy???So shameful you cling on E.G.White saying that the Church might appear to fall but does not fall it does not talk about the SDA Denomination WHICH YOU MADE a Corporation, but the pure Church Triumphant at the end without spot or wrinkle.You will condemn and persecute the closing work and workers as from Satan as you will be united with the Catholic, Protestant AND PAGAN RELIGIONS AT THE Sunday Law. Terrible tragedy will be

    I saw that the nominal churches and nominal Adventists, like Judas, would betray us to the Catholics, to obtain their influence to come against the saints. The saints will be an obscure people, but little known to the Catholics, but the church and nominal Adventists will know of our faith and customs, and will betray the saints and report them to the Catholics, as those who disregard the institution of the pope, that is they keep the Sabbath and disregard Sunday. {Ms15-1850.6}
    Then the Catholics bid the Protestants to go forward and issue a decree that all who will not observe the first day of the week instead of the seventh shall be slain, and the Catholics, whose numbers are large, will stand by the Protestants. The Catholics will give their power to the image of the beast and then Protestants will work as their mother worked before them to destroy the saints. But before their decrees bring forth or bear fruit, the saints will be delivered by the voice of God. {Ms15-1850.7}

    "If the church of God becomes lukewarm, it does not stand in favour with God any more than do the churches that are represented as having fallen and become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit and the cage of every unclean and hateful bird." Letter 35, 1898, p. 6-7

    "We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, and cage of every unclean and hateful bird." Letter 51, 9/6/1886

    "The world must not be introduced into the church. And married to the church, forming a bond of unity Through this means the church will become indeed CORRUPT AND AS STATED IN Revelation, a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Testimonies to Ministers p.265

    "In amazement they hear the testimony that Babylon is the church, fallen because of her errors and sins, because of her rejection of the truth sent to her from Heaven." -Spirit of Prophecy, vol 4, p 424 or Great Controversy, p 606-607

    The things you have described as taking place in Indiana, the Lord has shown me would take place just before the close of probation. Every uncouth thing will be demonstrated. There will be shouting, with drums, music, and dancing. {VSS 417.1}
    The senses of rational beings will become so confused that they cannot be trusted to make right decisions. And this is called the moving of the Holy Spirit. {VSS 417.2}

    "That these men should stand in a sacred place, to be as the voice of God to the people, as we once believed the General Conference to be–that is past".–Last Day Events 50.4

    “As for the voice of the General Conference, there is no voice from God through that body that is reliable.” -Manuscript 57, October 12, 1895 & Manuscript Releases, vol 17, p 178

    "The world and unconverted church members are in sympathy. Some, when God reproves them for wanting their own way, make the world their confidence, and bring church matters before the world for decision. Then there is collision and strife, and Christ is crucified afresh and put to open shame. Those church members who appeal to the courts of the world show that they have chosen the world as their judge, and their names are registered in heaven as one with unbelievers. How eagerly the world seizes the statements of those who betray sacred trusts!

    "This action, of appealing to human courts, never before entered into by Seventh-day Adventists, has now been done. God has permitted this that you who have been deceived may understand what power is controlling those who have had entrusted to them great responsibilities. Where are God's sentinels? Where are the men who will stand shoulder to shoulder, heart to heart, with the truth, present truth for this time, in possession of the heart?" –Manuscript 64, 1898. ("The Danger of Rejecting Light," May 19, 1898.)

    “Now those who have had years in this same experience, know not God nor Jesus Christ whom He has sent, and should such go forth as representatives of Jesus Christ? These men will never give the right mold to other minds; they have grown up to the full stature of men and women in Christ. They simply have the name of Christians but are not fitted for the work of God, and never will be until they are born again, and learn the A.B.C. in true religion of Jesus Christ. There is a little hope in one direction: Take the young men and women, and place them where they will come as little in contact with our churches as possible, that the low grad of piety which is current in the day shall not leaven their ideas of what it means to be a Christian.” -Letter 16f, May 9, 1892 & Manuscript Releases, vol 12, p 332-333

    The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the pillars of our faith for a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles that God in His wisdom has given would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be shown to be error. A new organization would be established. A system of intellectual philosophy would be formed. Books of a new order would be written. The founders of this system would go into the cities and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course will be lightly regarded,as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice,but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God,is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and the storm and tempest would sweep away the building. {Ms117a-1903.15}

    With His own finger God wrote His commandments on two tables of stone. These tables were not left in the keeping of men, but were placed in the ark; and in the great day when every case is decided, these tables, inscribed with the commandments, will be placed so that all the world will see and understand. The witness against them will be unanswerable. And upon those, who have taken upon them the work of shepherds of the flock, will be visited the heaviest judgments, because they have presented to the people fables instead of truth. Children will rise up and curse their parents. {Lt30-1900.12}

    SDA Church after the CLOSE OF PROBATION:

    Church members, who have seen the light and been convicted, but who have trusted the salvation of their souls to the minister, will learn in the day of God that no other soul can pay the ransom for their transgression. A terrible cry will be raised, “I am lost, eternally lost.” Men will feel as though they could rend in pieces the ministers who have preached falsehoods and condemned the truth. The pure truth for this time requires a reformation in the life, but they separate themselves from the love of the truth, and of them it can be said, “O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself.” The Lord sends a message to the people: “Set a trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the Lord, because they have transgressed my covenant and trespassed against my law.” {Lt30-1900.13}

  3. Yes I want Leslie Martin and her husband to watch this video just so they would stop calling the SDAs a cult ,they are the ones who does not understand many of the Bible text .wow pastor Martin a pastor said that Jesus is the end of the law means we will not uphold the law ? Paul said on Romans 6:1 that we should not abolished the law just because we are given grace ? it just means Jesus is the purpose or the goal of the law ,his understanding of Jesus as the ' end of the law.' You Mr Martin and your wife Leslie misunderstood lots of Bible text and you call us cult ,never and never us as a cult .We don't want you our pastor because Mr Martin you don't know your Bible.We would rather have Professor Walter Veith .and all others who are brilliant not like you Mr. Martin ,a pastor ? And does not know meaning a lot of scriptures. You have a wacky understanding of the Bible,Mr Martin ,we don't want you as an SDA pastor because you twist the word of God.

  4. Isaiah the last two prophets one on a donkey Jesus one on a camel Muhammed Abraham's two sons Ishmael and Issac Abraham laid the Cornerstone with Ishmael. I suggest you look into the dajjal the antichrist Muhammed warned about, Muhammed was a sinner just like Moses did Moses not kill someone. When interpreting Arabic language remember its full of parables one word can mean many things, red meat blood flesh, green grape olive grass ect

  5. I have always loved to listen to prof. Walter Veith and over time I've come to put much confidence in his teachings, but he has raised some RED flags in this video!!! Professor Veith, uses a quote from Charles C. Ryrie, who is a very notable advocate of classic Premillenial Dispensationalism (Futurism), to give definition to the word "Propitiation", and Prof. Veith then considers him as a "a very good source" for information. Classic Premillenial Dispensationalism is an APOSTATE theology. It's another gospel! So why would you use one of its prominent advocates as a source of information, and tell your audience that he is "a very good source" for information?
    Charles C Ryrie has written books and he has also published a study bible that picks up where the Scofield study bible left off, all advocating Dispensational Theology (Futurism), a false gospel. This has got me bewildered! I'm hoping and praying that this has been done in ignorance, or simple error. Please, I would appreciate someone at AD to respond to me and explain the reason behind this!

  6. love u brotha veith o how gracies an mercyfull our Great God u unpack it in thee most beatifull an amazing view differnently 1 of my most up right favourite rabbi of all time God bless u brotha I am this day an whence forth going to exspand the sight throu the eye of the time glass to spread the 3angles messages an let that sand flow may the Lord bless us to save all he can so we may have done all we can by the will of the Father praise be the Father the Son an the Holy Spirit holding back the winds so maybe I can find that 1 lost sheep an my whole exitince will bring satisfaction not by might nor power by thy spirit im naked poor an retered yet God has whatchfully observered an in the balance I am sealed by the testimony of jesus Christ an in a conserqence of conversion I keep the commandments of God an rest in our creator an saviour an worship on the true Sabbath cause hes worthy an holy an just an is thee only 1 who can un seal the scrolls im pray for us all everday my brotha the bouls r about to b poured out…God bless you Brotha thank you for all I have been lead by the holy spirit from all your hard work to spread the good news…

  7. once again the ETERNAL ONE WORDS are being delivered to all to choose thrut from error witch the intire world seems to follow blindhandedly hope this is not your case. do support this channel while there is any opportunity before its alltogather too late for anybody.GOD THE FATHER BLEST BROTHER VEITH.

  8. This life is just a true God sent test of what 1 does with his own soul (freewill,mind, emotions) to be able to truely give a rightous judgement at the end WARE YOUR SPIRIT GOES THAT WHAT REALLY MATTERS IT LIVES FOREVER and we all get what we choose and deserve.. It all part of HIS PLAN .. A rightous mans death is better than the day he is born… God created satan to draw the wicked to himself cause GOD do not have anything to do with the wicked and we all have a soul (mind, free will, feeling) so at the end we all freely choose ware we are to go.. You choose cause satan can get your soul. BUT NEVER YOUR SPIRIT ( breath, conscience)THAT GOES BACK TO GOD WHO GAVE IT….A Simple Servant Shares the bible tells it all PSALMS 34:21-22 says " Evil (satan)shall slay the wicked, and those who hate the rightous shall be condemned. The LORD REDEEMS THE SOUL OF HIS SERVANTS, and none of those who trust in HIM (JESUS) shall be condemned..' AMEN 1st COR 1:18 "FOR THE MESSAGE OF THE CROSS IS FOOLISHNESS TO THOSE WHO ARE PERISHING, BUT TO THOSE WHO ARE BEING SAVED IT IS THE POWER OF GOD…AMEN


  10. This is strange – this ritual language.
    I asked a man to stand by to be my witness I'm an approaching conflict with the police.

    He was very scared and he said: "This is the Atonement."

    I didn't know what he was talking about.

    It was a total police assault and false arrest.

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    The parallels between Moses the prophet and Jesus Christ, the Moshiach / Messiah:

    I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee [Moshe], and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
    {Deuteronomy 18:18}

    –From this verse there are three attributes of the Messiah / Jesus Christ, the anointed one.

    1.) He is / will be a Prophet.
    2.) He is / will be from among them, the Israelites.
    3.) He is / will be like Moses.

    –The first two attributes could point to many other of the preceding prophet's of Israel, so therefore the third of attributes will seperate the prophet's from the moshiach / messiah.

    "Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

    For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

    But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"
    {John 5:45-47}

    Both (Moses) and Yehoshua had cruel Leaders when born who would kill many male infants.
    (Ex 1:16)

    –Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

    Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying,

    In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.
    {Matthew 2:16-18}

    –Both where laid in primitive cribbs in swaddling cloths.

    Mose is an Ark of bulrushes and (Jesus) in a manger. (Luke 2:16)

    –Both hidden in Egypt as a child.

    And the woman conceived, and bare a son: and when she saw him that he was a goodly child, she hid him three months.
    {Exodus 2:2}

    And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

    When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

    And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son
    {Matthew 2:13-15}

    –Both (Moses) and Christ Jesus where from priestly lines. (Ex 2:1)

    And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

    Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

    For he testifieth, Thou [Jesus Christ] art a priest for ever after the order of *Melchisedec*.
    {Hebrews 7:15-17}


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    –Both had a place outside of the temple outer court and the camp.

    And Moses took the tabernacle, and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the LORD went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp.
    {Exodus 33:7}

    Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

    Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
    {Hebrews 13:12-13}

    –Both offered themselves for the sins of others.

    Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin–; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.
    {Exodus 32:32}

    So Christ was ONCE offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
    {Hebrews 9:28}

    And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

    But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
    {Hebrews 10:11-12}

    –Both are a Mediator, between God the Father and man.

    And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off.

    And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die.

    And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.
    {Shemot 20:18-20}

    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
    {1Timothy 2:5}


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    –Both fasted for forty days and forty nights.

    And he [Moshe] was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
    {Shemot 34:28}

    And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,

    Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
    {Matthew 4:1-2, Luke 4:1-2}

    –Both appointed seventy men.

    And Moses went out, and told the people the words of the LORD, and gathered the seventy men of the elders of the people, and set them round about the tabernacle.
    {Bamidbar 11:24}

    After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
    {Luke 10:1}

    –Both where chastised by their siblings.

    And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.
    {Bamidbar 12:1}

    For neither did his brethren believe in him.
    {John 7:5}

    –God listens to both.

    Pardon, I beseech thee, the iniquity of this people according unto the greatness of thy mercy, and as thou hast forgiven this people, from Egypt even until now.

    And the LORD said, I have pardoned according to thy word:
    {Bamidbar 14:19-20}

    Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

    And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
    {John 11:41-42}


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    –Both declared the promised land for the children.

    Doubtless ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware to make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.

    But your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, them will I bring in, and they shall know the land which ye have despised.
    {Numbers 14:30-31}

    But Jesus called them [children] unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.
    {Luke 18:16}

    –Both had their authority challenged.

    And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?
    {Shemot 6:3}

    And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?
    {Matthew 21:23}

    –Both finished the work God gave each to do.

    And he reared up the court round about the tabernacle and the altar, and set up the hanging of the court gate. So Moses finished the work.
    {Shemot 40:33}

    "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do".
    {John 14:4}

    When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, IT IS FINISHED: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
    {John 19:30}

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  16. This ecumenicalism is obviously a step towards One World Religion. It seems the ones doing so are preachers who I have no respect for already and who preach Prosperity Nonsense. I bet they see all that gold and high position and imagine themselves the Protestant Bishop of the Americas under the Pope. Only idiots that don't believe their own teaching are interested in doing that blasphemy. The Protest ain't hardly over. And to think some of those leaders are advising the President.

  17. I am also happy for new videos from this wonderful professor and I think quite frankly a remarkable man. I don't know if I will ever have any other chance to tell this man how thankful I am for his videos as they brought me to Jesus, and today I am a Seventh Day Adventist Christian. Thanks Professor, and one day in heaven I will definately come and eat some of the avo's from your garden. May God bless you and keep you many more years for us to enable you to give us more of your knowledge.

  18. Catholics founded Islam. It will be easy to combine the two for the NWO religion. It's the followers of Christ who will be persecuted. The ones that don't find any human on earth as a form of God on Earth. No Pope. No Mahdi. No anyone but Christ as our advocate. Christ payed the price to keep us from Hell. Nobody on earth has any equal power to Christ.
    The day is coming soon that the religions of the world will combine and those that can't will be destroyed. Sad for any religion that is wiped out with no saviour. Animism and Paganism is earth worship and will be able to combine with Chrislam. As long as earth worship is contained within the NWR. It already is with the Pope.
    Lucifer is already being venerated. Knowledge is on an alter. Amazing things will be done based on this knowledge. Enlightenment on Earth is coming. A saviour for the world as an imitation Christ is any day now rising up. Anyone who can stop the violence and bloodshed will be welcomed. Just like the fear mongering about gun control is getting people to give up their rights for security. Security that will never be delivered.

  19. Есть кто может перевести эти лекции а то Русской аудитории очень хочется посмотреть ,если есть ссылка переведенный ресурс дайте)заранее спасибо

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