J Krishnamurti Conversations with Eugene Schallert of the Society of Jesus.
In these conversations, Eugene Schallert, a Jesuit priest, and Krishnamurt discuss goodness, freedom and the relation between living and dying. Freedom, they say, is the negation of conditioning by any of culture’s religious or political divisions. The conditioning content of consciousness must be emptied with one stroke in the very act of perceiving that conditioning.
Discussing living, they see that to live you must die every day to all that you have gathered so that the mind is new. We must first understand what it means to live, not what it means to die. Death is perfect order because it is the ending of disorder which comes through choiceless awareness of what disorder is..