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The claim is made that a Jesuit named Francisco Ribera “invented” Futurism around 1590 AD in an effort to provide cover for Rome and deflect the belief that the Pope is the Antichrist. BUT this is a LIE against Dispensationalism. And this video short lays out the facts.

These video shorts are being produced for the purpose of embedding on our web site as we build a library of video answers to lies being propagated against the Biblical truth of Dispensationalism. These will be posted at kjvbiblebelievers.com/liesdispensationalism.php

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34 Replies to “Lies Against Dispensationalism: Did Jesuit Francisco Ribera “invent” Futurism?”

  1. Good job Gregory. To the point. Jesus' prophetic words about the destruction of the Temple (in 70 AD) and apostle Paul's prophetic words regarding the revelation of the falling away, the man of sin, , etc. were futurist. Literal. Likewise, if The Lord had meant His words to be understood in an Historicist or Idealist methodology regarding the abomination of desolation, would he not have referenced Antiochus Epiphanes from the Old testament writings and left it at that? He didn't.

    IMHO, the greatest witness against those who are anti-Dispensational/Futurist are the very days we live in, in the context of the last 2000 years, with focus on the Vatican City-State (an actual 'Kingdom') and its geo-political, manipulative oversight of nations and peoples, now culminating in the imposition of a strange Jesuit Pope displacing Ratzinger as lightning strikes St. Peter's for all to see. And yet more, those denominations and movements who claim, with sectarian condescension, to be 'reformed' or 'of the Reformers' are seen in theses days of apostasy to be gleefully dancing with the World Council of 'Churches' and waltzing to the Vatican to venerate the 'popes' who are fomenting the New World Order of Luciferian intrigue. And yet, and at the same time, they pin their anti-futurist hopes on cherry-picking Jesuitical writings (real or forged).
    Prophetic interpretation that is dependent on 'scholastic' subjectivity, imagination and speculative thought is man-centered and ego-driven. Prophetic naval-gazing. The verbosity that bounces around in lifeless university classrooms and causes the eyes of the unsuspecting to glaze over.

    On the contrary, Futurists live in and learn from the real world we find ourselves in, allowing Scripture, illuminated by the Holy Spirit, to help us see and understand God's eternal purpose unfolding in REAL and chronological, tangible and observable events. We see "right dividing" illustrated by The Lord Jesus himself, reading from the scroll of Isaiah to a particular place, and then closing the scroll without finishing the rest of the text. The rest of that text was for a future time.

    "Except we become as little children…"

  2. the pope represents christianity at large, if you go against rome you are going against christ. the devil wants to destroy the church. he is using the protestants, how can the pope be the antichrist, is the pope against christ. wake up. the devil wants to destrly all religions and all goverments, then show up as our liberator, wake up. go and proclaim the gospel.

  3. (Scofield Reference Bible, 1909 Introduction, Page iii)

    The discovery of the Sinaitic MS. and the labours in the field of textual criticism of such scholars as Griesbach, Lachmann, Tischendorf, Tregelles, Winer, Alford, and Wescott and Hort, have cleared the Greek textus receptus of minor inaccuracies,

    READ THAT AGAIN…CLEARED THE TEXTUS RECEPTUS (KJV) OF MINOR INNACCURACIES…

    while confirming in a remarkable degree the general accuracy of the Authorized Version of that text.

    the results of the study of God's Word by learned and spiritual men, in every division of the church and in every land, during the last fifty years, under the advantage of a perfected text, already form a vast literature, inaccessible to most Christian workers.
     
    SCOFIELD LIKED WESTCOTT AND HORT…? WHY…?
    THESE ARE SOME OF SCOFIELDS REFERENCE NOTES:

    Page 1271, 2 Thessalonians, Introduction

    The theme of Second Thessalonians is, unfortunately, obscured by a mistranslation in the A.V. (KJV) of 2:2 where "day of Christ is at hand" See [1Co 1:8] should be, "day of the Lord is now present" (See [Isa 2:12], ref).

    Page 1325, 1 John 5:7, margin note "o"

    It is generally agreed that v.7 has no real authority, and has been inserted

    THIS IS ONE OF THE 2 TWO STRONGEST VERSES SUPPORTING THE GODHEAD (TRINITY) AND SCOFIELD LINES UP WITH VATICAN MANUSCRIPTS AND WESTCOTT AND HORT…? WHY….?

    Page 1212, 1 Corinthians 1:8, footnote "2"
    A.V. has "day of Christ," #2Th 2:2 incorrectly, for "day of the Lord"

    Recognizes that 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 in the KJV actually refutes the pretribulation rapture doctrine, and thus explains that there is therefore is a mistranslation in the KJV that obscures the real meaning. (1917 Scofield Reference Bible, p. 1270)

  4. From Wikipedia:
    Apocalypse commentary
    In order to remove the papacy of the Catholic Church from consideration as the Antichrist (as an act of countering the Protestant Reformation), Ribera began writing a lengthy (500 page) commentary in 1585 on the Book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, proposing that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse apply to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3½ literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy because of the Reformation cry stating that "the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." (Martin Luther, Aug. 18, 1520). Then, he proposed, the Antichrist, a single individual, would:
    Persecute and blaspheme the saints of God.
    Rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.
    Abolish the Christian religion.
    Deny Jesus Christ.
    Be received by the Jews.
    Pretend to be God.
    Kill the two witnesses of God.
    Conquer the world.
    To accomplish this, Ribera proposed that the 1260 days and 42 months and 3½ times of prophecy were not 1260 years as based on the year-day principle (Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6), but a literal 3½ years, hence preventing the arrival of the deduction of (i) the 1260 years to be related to the Dark Ages (according to the Historicism (Christianity) interpretation of eschatology from 538 A.D. when the papal power was fully established in Rome until its political blow in 1798 A.D., when Louis-Alexandre Berthier the general of Napoleon captured pope Pius VI as prisoner to Valence, France) and (ii) the Antichrist to be related to papacy.

  5. Apparently the vid author didn't actually read Ribera. So here it is:

    "In order to remove the papacy of the Catholic Church from consideration as the Antichrist (as an act of countering the Protestant Reformation), Ribera began writing a lengthy (500 page) commentary in 1585 on the Book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, proposing that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse apply to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3½ literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy because of the Reformation cry stating that "the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." (Martin Luther, Aug. 18, 1520). Then, he proposed, the Antichrist, a single individual, would:
    Persecute and blaspheme the saints of God.
    Rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.
    Abolish the Christian religion.
    Deny Jesus Christ.
    Be received by the Jews.
    Pretend to be God.
    Kill the two witnesses of God.
    Conquer the world.
    To accomplish this, Ribera proposed that the 1260 days and 42 months and 3½ times of prophecy were not 1260 years as based on the year-day principle (Numbers 14:34 and Ezekiel 4:6), but a literal 3½ years, hence preventing the arrival of the deduction of (i) the 1260 years to be related to the Dark Ages (according to the Historicism (Christianity) interpretation of eschatology from 538 A.D. when the papal power was fully established in Rome until its political blow in 1798 A.D., when Louis-Alexandre Berthier the general of Napoleon captured pope Pius VI as prisoner to Valence, France) and (ii) the Antichrist to be related to papacy."

  6. Whoever says that Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera "invented futurism" is lying. I dont have to go back to the Church Fathers either. The artist Michelangelo worked on his painting 'The Last Judgment' (in Sistine Chapel) between 1536-1541. Unfortunately for preterists everywhere, Ribera was only 4 years old at the latter date. Perhaps the futurist position originated elsewhere?

  7. Christians from the first century onward have believed that the Jews would retake Jerusalem in the last days. Your ignorance of that fact doesn't change that fact.

    Why are there groups like "Jews against Zionism"? The same reason there were "Jews against JESUS" and have been for 2,000 years. They are blind, like YOU.

  8. @7Pelagius Your response is dishonest.

    You are a Jew-hater. Stop lying and just admit it. If you had your way, the Jews would remain in Europe and elsewhere so the Final Solution could be finally realized. ADMIT it, you pathetic little devil.

    People like you, calling yourself "Christian", while attacking the Jewish right to their land and defending your PAPAL Augustinian apostate views are enough to make Heaven vomit (Revelation 3:16).

    You are ignorant & unwilling to be taught

  9. You're response is childish. My opposition to dispensational futurism doesn't make me "antisemitic." Opposing "Christian-Zionism" or war mongering "zionism" bound up in the counter-reformation theology you espouse doesn't mean I hate "Jews." Since you're clearly uninformed, perhaps you should realize there are "Jews" and Israelis who also oppose your war mongering zionistic beliefs. What are you going to say now? They're self-hating Jews. Get real man, and knock the ad hominem.

  10. @7Pelagius So, your Jew-hating, Anti-Semitic-loving true colors begin to bleed in your posts. That didn't take long.

    But like all closet Papists, you hate the Jew just like your founder Augustine. Augustine is THE architect of Catholicism and your "reformed" theology with it's denial of the Gospel and embrace of baptismal regeneration–which Luther's catechism espouses.

    God along your happy way Pelagius. Not sure why you'd name yourself after your idol, Augustine's nemesis…

  11. @bbbfohio Your 4 minute video, void of historical research, hardly repudiate D.S. Farris' 11 part video with his line upon line, precept upon precept research. And the idea that you're a threat to catholicism is absurd. You're a DISPENSATIONAL FUTURIST and espouse counter-reformation theology! Your statements about Luther are divorced from context and appeal to racist-zionism, which is linked to your theology. While Luther didn't have absolute truth, he stood before an enemy you bow before.

  12. @7Pelagius Your comment is asinine. My facts prove that Farris is an incompetent BOOB who ignored those facts presented in this video because they simply did not fit his claims.

    The Popes LOVE people like you and KILL people like me. How does that jell with your pseudo-conspiracy theory?

    Martin Luther advised people to divorce a spouse for no Biblical reason, called for the Jews to be run out of Germany and all there synagogues and books burned, taught baptismal regeneration, etc.

  13. @bbbfohio The 11 part video series entitled "The Truth About Dispensational Futurism" by D. S. Farris annihilates your POOR RESEARCH. It is an HISTORIC FACT that the futurist school was founded in 1591 by the Jesuit Fracisco Ribera! Historicism is the Biblical and Protestant approach to prophetic interpretation. You're a child of the counter-reformation. Even Martin Luther said interpreting the scriptures through the church father's was equivalent to pouring milk through a coal sack.

  14. @7Pelagius REJECTED the view held by ALL the disciples of the Apostles. The Apostolic view was very basic, but futuristic: Rapture, Antichrist and Tribulation, Return of Jesus Christ to destroy the Antichrist and establish His Kingdom, the Millenniual Reign.

    IN that order.

    That is FACT and none of these liars who ignore the facts and cook the books can change that.

    The fact that the Reformation gave birth to a revival of theology and the development of Dispensationalism is to be expected.

  15. @7Pelagius What's flabbergasting is your gullibility.

    I've heard the liars and as I point out in this video, these Jesuits did NOT teach invent futurism. The early Church was FUTURIST. You are ignoring the FACTS of the developing futurism found in the writings of Justin, Ephraim, Clement of Rome, Ignatius, etc.

    NO believers of the first 100 years of church history held ANY other view than that of FUTURISM in it's infancy. The Amillennial APOSTATES in Rome, beginning 4th century, (cont)

  16. @northadore You can't read.

    The Bible does NOT say the Messiah is cut off in the "midst of the week". It says Messiah is cut off AFTER the 69th week. (verse 26)

    The "midst of the week" refers to the covenant that is confirmed, marking the start of the 70th week, "in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease." (verse 27)

    The Vatican believes EXACTLY what you believe. It's their OFFICIAL position on the matter via Augustine the Roman Catholic.

  17. You believe a vatican lie. You cannot take the last week of Daniel's 70 week prophecy out of context and push it 2000 years into the future. The last week of Daniel's 70 week prophecy speaks about the Messiah being cut off in the midst of the week. It speaks about Yahushua our Messiah. You've been taught Catholic lies and you teach Catholic lies.

  18. @ScientistALRIII What is a "Yahushua-Yahuwah". You sure it's not Yashua Hamashiach?

    Or maybe you could use English since transliterating God's Name isn't even a practice held by the Apostles who freely translated the Hebrew into Greek in the New Testament.

    Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. That communicates the truth much more clearly and doesn't make you look like a buffoon with a superiority complex.

  19. Hear the word of God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are One) spoken to Our generation by His chosen prophets! EXCERPT: TrumpetCallofGodOnline . com letter called "I Am Come Out of My Sanctuary":

    And all, written in The Scriptures, shall come upon this generation…

    Even all these Scriptures, written in this very book of Letters, shall come to pass quickly,
    For this Word is MINE and shall become famous, with My name resounding in all the earth…

    I AM THE LORD!

    Best Regards.

  20. Bro Greg, Pre-millenial teaching was condemned by the Council of Ephesus in 431AD as a "fable" and condemned again at the 5th lateran council in 1516. So the better answer to that question about where was his theology may be "in the valley's of Europe w/ the Waldenses, Albigenses, and Ana-baptists.

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