UPDATED VERSION – To Seventh-day Adventists: A Warning About False Tests

Seventh-day Adventists—unlike any other Christian Church on earth—have been called by God Himself to boldly proclaim the three angels’ messages of Revelation 14:6-12 to a lost and dying world before Jesus Christ returns (see verses 14-16). Unfortunately, many Adventists are being sidetracked from their holy mission by certain movements within the Adventist church itself claiming to have “new light,” or “new truths,” that are being presented as “new tests” for Adventists themselves. Pastor Wohlberg warns that 2520, feast-keeping, and anti-Trinity ideas are fueling intensive controversy, division, and diversion—which is exactly what the devil wants.

**White Horse Media Position Statement and Resources
About the 2520, Feasts, Trinity**

9T 19 says that Seventh-day Adventists are called by God to proclaim the three angels’ messages (Revelation 14:6-12) to the world. They “should allow nothing else to absorb their attention.” In the past, much time and attention has been lost by those consumed with advocating errant theology and non-issues.

This short position statement briefly addresses three issues affecting many in God’s Church today. It also lists resources available for those wrestling with these debates. Whereas these are the positions of White Horse Media, we believe they are in line with those of the world church.

“The supposed 2,520 prophecy in Leviticus 26. The 2,520 was on the earliest 1843 Millerite chart. It was on the 1850 chart, but in smaller print. When the SDA church was organized in 1863, it was removed from the 1864 chart (which EGW supported, 1T 666), and never reappeared. Thus, while taught by our Millerite forerunners, it was never part of official SDA doctrine. We believe the SDA church abandoned it because it wasn’t biblical. We agree with James White’s January 26, 1864 Review article that such a prophecy doesn’t exist. In all of her writings, EGW never specifically mentioned the 2,520 even once. That is enough for us.” Resource: Prophecy’s Blind Date: 2520(https://www.whitehorsemedia.com/product/prophecys-blind-date-2520/), by Steve Wohlberg. Available from White Horse Media.

**NOTE: White Horse Media only endorses the statements below in the context of these subjects. This does not necessarily constitute an endorsement of other statements made by these same individuals in other settings.

“Keeping the feasts. GC 605 says that ‘The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty; for it is the point of truth especially controverted.’ Nowhere in GC are feasts included as tests of loyalty. The Sabbath was given before sin (Gen. 2:1-3), is one of the Ten Commandments (Ex. 20:8-11), and was written with God’s finger (Ex. 31:18), whereas the feasts entered after sin, were written by Moses, and are types pointing to Jesus. EGW never directly commanded feast-keeping. On the night of the Lord’s supper, ‘Christ was standing at the point of transition between two economies and their two great festivals…He would thus bring to an end the system of types and ceremonies that for four thousand years had pointed to His death…The national festival of the Jews [the Passover] was to pass away forever.’” DA 652.” Resource: Feast Days(http://www.worldincrisis.org/Harvestime-Books/FeastDays.pdf), by Vance Ferrell. Available from White Horse Media.

“The Trinity. Yes, many of our pioneers opposed a Trinity. Overall, their writings are very valuable, but not infallible. SDA doctrines should be based on the Bible and SOP, not on men’s words. Jesus said people should be baptized in “the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19). EGW wrote, “In Christ is life, original, unborrowed, underived.” DA 530. She also wrote, ‘Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power.’ DA 671. About the Holy Spirit, Jesus said, ‘I will send Him to you.’ John 16:7. ‘The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it…Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden.’ AA, 52. We believe our current SDA position on the Godhead reflects an advancement of truth in harmony with the Bible and SOP.” Resource: The Trinity Debate: Defending the Indefensible (https://www.scribd.com/document/139266639/VERY-IMPORTANT-The-Trinity-Debate-Brian-Neumann), by Brian Neumann.

The Doctrine of the Trinity Among Seventh-day Adventists:


We don’t wish to have our attention absorbed in debating these issues, but to do God’s work of lifting up Jesus Christ, leading sinners to His love, and to His cross, and focusing our attention on giving the three angels’ messages to the world. Here we stand.

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  1. To all seventh day Adventists who may be watching this channel: Go into the Old Testament and search for verses that describe the "law of God" and "law of Moses". You will soon discover that the phrase "law of God" is often used to describe things that we would consider "ceremonial" like feast days or "ordinances". The phrase "Law of Moses" or "law given by Moses" is also used to describe the 10 commandments! The "Law of Moses" is the first 5 books of the OT which INCLUDES the 10 commandments in Exodus and Deuteronomy. The separation between the 10 commandments and the "ordinances" is NOT in the Bible, every last commandment that Moses wrote to Israel was given on the authority of God… It's ALL God's law!

    Keeping the commandments of God means keeping ALL OF IT, all 600+ statues and ordinances, not JUST the 10 commandments. But the New Testament explains that the Old Covenant has passed away and a better covenant has replaced it. If Christ is your focus, your one hope, your sole desire and he dwells in you then you will fulfil ALL of God's commandments, not by following the literal instructions of the OT but by fulfilling them spiritually. The book of Hebrews is absolutely clear, the 7th day Sabbath was given to the Jews however they did NOT find true spiritual rest but now that we belong to Christ and Christ is in us, we have entered into the true rest that the Jews never had.

    If you believe that you need to keep the 7th day Sabbath as it was kept under the old covenant then you need to keep it EXACTLY as Moses explained. No lighting a fire, no cooking, no leaving your home unless you travel a "Sabbath days journey", NO PICKING UP STICKS. etc. Are you REALLY keeping the 7th day Sabbath as God commands? In the book of Galatians the apostle Paul warns us not to try to go back to the Old Covenant… anyone who does this is ACCURSED and Christ's sacrifice will be of NO BENEFIT TO YOU.

    He who has ears, let him hear.

  2. Oh' Steve Wolberg, you fail to understand just where the Trinity came from.
    It came in in 325 AD. And has crept in to the SDA mainline church, there are not 3 Gods,
    nor 3 Gods in 1 God.
    Get it right ! There is One God the Father & his literal only begotten Son and their Spirit.
    We don't have a problem with the number, but the relationship between the three !

  3. As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

  4. The character and prospects of the people of God are similar to those of the Jews, who could not enter in because of unbelief, self-sufficiancy, self-importance, and spiritual pride separate them from God, and He hid His face from them.

    Let it not be said of this highly favored
    people, “Ye entered not in
    yourselves, and them that were entering in ye
    hindered” (Luke 11:52)

  5. It is a grievous sin in the sight of God for men to place themselves between the people and the message that he would have come to them. There are some who like the Jews are doing their utmost to make the message of God of none effect. Let these questioning ones either receive the light of the truth for this time, or let them stand out of the way, that others may have an opportunity of receiving the truth, that the wrath of God may not come on them because they are bodies of darkness, when he desires them to be bodies of light.

  6. One can't give/teach the 1st angel's message…if they don't know the God who is highlighted therein…if one has a false concept of the God we are called upon to "fear" and "worship" per that message

    Holding to a belief in a "triune" God, Pastor Wohlberg has an unbiblical understanding of who God really is, and thus disqualifies himself from giving the 1st angel's message

    Indeed, if we disqualify ourselves from preaching the 1st angel's message because of a false concept of who God really is, then we also disqualify ourselves from giving the 2nd and 3rd and will not be part of those saints who give the loud cry message to those in Babylon to depart from her and come to worship and honour the true God in Spirit and in truth

    Indeed, the entire 7th day Adventist organization, because of their official belief in a "triune" God and false doctrine/notions regarding the Son of God, are in apostasy and have disqualified themselves from being part of the faithful remnant in these last days who are to soon give the 3 angels' messages/warnings to the world

    Keeping the 7th day Sabbath as the Creator/God has commanded is virtually useless/nonsensical if we don't know the true God that the 7th day Sabbath points to.

    Currently the 7th day Adventist denomination is breaking the first commandment, and in so doing is breaking ALL the commandments…including the 4th.

  7. I appreciate that in this video you do not make judgment calls for other beliefs that differ from yours, but rather FOCUS on the fact that these are not TESTS! In 1888 there were differences of beliefs as well, about a subject that was VERY much a salvational issue, Christ our righteousness by faith. But the way Ellen White handled it was lovely like Jesus. The way she dealt with deception was by inculcating truth! Truth will overcome!

  8. Every commandment is important to keep, not just one-all of them being in balance. The first commandment is just as vital as the second, third, fourth, fifth. etc. We should not be involved in lopsided commandment keeping. Allow me to illustrate. Let's say that a person keeps the sabbath rather well, but forgets about regarding God as the one, true God and begins to serve other gods like money, work, pleasures-he or she is still breaking the law. The apostle, James, writes that if anyone strives keeping the law, but offends in one point, he or she is guilty of all. Jesus gave two commandments: Love the Lord with all your heart, strength, mind, and soul and your neighbor as yourself. Our Lord also says, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments. Therefore, please notice, it is plural-COMMANDMENTS! If you are most careful to keep the commandment about keepjing the sabbatb and some other commandments regarding loyalty to God, but forget love of neighbor, you are neglecting the weightier matters of the law like practiciing justice and mercy.
    Keeping the sabbath as a holy rest day is beautiful and the 4th chapter of Hebrews encourages entering that rest, it's just as beautiful in God's sight to avoid stealing committing adultery, killing, coveting, bearing false witness(lying). These commandments and honoring one s parents are just as important.
    Remember that keeping the law wil not save you. Salvation doesn't involve anything we do at all. It's a gift! All the commandment keeping and good works we could do would not make us rjghteous enough to enter heaven. (Isaiah 64,6). Jesus paid it all! (Ephesians 2,8-10, Galatians 5,1-5)

  9. The Son of God was next in authority to the great Lawgiver. He knew that His life alone could be sufficient to ransom fallen man. (Ellen White, Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 2, page 9, also in Lift Him Up, page 24)

    Satan’s position in heaven had been next to the Son of God. He was first among the angels. (Ellen White, Selected Messages, book 1, page 341)

    Please note that Christ was next in authority behind his father. The third highest being was none other than Satan himself.

    Satan, the chief of the fallen angels, once had an exalted position in Heaven. He was next in honor to Christ. (Ellen White, Review & Herald, February 24, 1874)

    Speaking of Satan, our Lord says that “he abode not in the truth.” He was once the covering cherub, glorious in beauty and holiness. He was next to Christ in exaltation and character. It was with Satan that self-exaltation had its origin. He became jealous of Christ, and falsely accused him, and then laid blame upon the Father. He was envious of the position that was held by Christ and the Father, and he turned from his allegiance to the Commander of heaven and lost his high and holy estate. (Ellen White, Review & Herald, October 22, 1895)

    Satan was jealous of the postion of God the father and Christ the son of God alone.

  10. How can anyone with any sense believe that understanding who their God
    is-is a delusion of the devil. Except those who are already deceived by
    the devil in believing the Roman Catholic false teaching of the Trinity.
    Which she Rome says is her central theme and all others doctrine
    follow especially Sunday, "Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief
    should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in
    scripture…But the Protestant churches have themselves excepted it such
    dogmas, as the Trinity, for which there is no such precise authority in
    the Gospels." (Assumption of Mary Life Magazine October 30, 29150 page
    51)The Pharisees crucified Christ because of his claim to be the Son of
    God and You Brother Steve are doing the same. Do you NOT believe the
    scriptures that tell us our God is ONE. Deut. 6:4 or 1 Cor.8:4,6 or John
    17:3? And so many others. It's funny though while you say your God is
    Trinity there is no scripture to support such a view. Israel never
    taught such a thing nowhere in the Scriptures. The First Angel's Message
    declare the Father and the Son only. But I'm sure you haven't seen that
    either. Rev 14:7 says Fear God [who is the Father].. and worship Him
    [who is the Son] who created. I could go on but you have declare you
    won't even discuss the issue. What is there to be afraid of if what you
    believe is correct. I only can to believe the truth after closely
    investigating it for myself and not what the church told me to believe.
    "The fact that there is no controversy or agitation among God's people
    should not be regarded as conclusive evidence that the are holding fast
    to sound doctrine. There is reason to fear that they may not be clearly
    discriminating between truth and error. When no new questions are
    started by investigation of the Scriptures, when no difference of
    opinion arises which will set men to searching the Bible for themselves
    to make sure that they have the truth, there will be many now, as in
    ancient times,who will hold to tradition and worship they know not
    what." I'm afraid for you my brother and those who are following you and
    this untruth. May God help you repent before it is too late.

  11. Are you feeling the people awakening? Is your grip slipping on those who love the truth and seek God daily? Do you hear those echoes of men who have gone before.. reminding us the past reflects the future and remember with cold dread the chosen people, His own chosen, peculiar children who failed to know The Son when He was sent because they did not know the Father, it availed them not they kept the sabbath better to the letter than we do, the test came and they failed it for they did not know the Father and nor His Son. The mystery of the trinity dogma is the cornerstone of the Roman Catholic faith – upon it stand ALL her other dogmas. The words mystery Babylon on the whores forehead is there for very good reason. I suppose this video is largely crafted to Instil fear into the awakening flock who are beginning question the truth of the trinity..What is truly ironic are the flames licking at the speakers back throughout in the background…no doubt meant as a warning to non Trinitarians like me of the fiery lake that awaits all who do not keep the commandments of God. On the day I see Him face to face, I will honestly be able to give account for why I have believed in The Father as the one true almighty God and in His only begotten Son the Lord Yeshua, and will point to every time He used singular first person terms clearly showing One single person to be the author, I will point to every text that clearly decisively tells us He is One God. The one true living God, That He alone is God and there is none like Him. The history is there, the Father tried over and over to drum the fact into the hard skulls of men for Millenia… this one truth He kept repeating..but we always want more don't we? Not Satisfied with ONE God we are happy to devise more…the pattern of the past repeating…Will my trinitarian brother be so bold to stand and state to He who sees into our very souls and say 'God, you told us clearly you are God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit who are not three gods but one God'? Will you have ready the clear word of God, the text or texts that specifically state this to show God where He himself stated this ? Those texts you have been taught will echo hollowly as the sad truth dawns, it's all vain philosophy, false teaching, doctrines of Devils embraced by those who do not love truth and have not known the good shepherd who would have led them surely into the light. Love the truth, seek God and trust He gives His spirit, wisdom and understanding to those who seek Him truly with contrite hearts so they can worship Him in spirit and in truth. Throwing off the trinity deception is one of the hardest trials as years of false teaching have to be undone. Research the early pioneers – they had already thrown off the deceptive dogma – and Ellen never came to believe in it either, at any stage later in her life..no need to trot out her statements which, taken from their settings, can be taken out of context. Ellen would not have silently shifted her view, she was a prolific writer if nothing else. She believed the spirit to be Jesus as alive and as much a person as he is in his body, but divested of…don't read excerpts of her writings taken away from their settings, and set to other writers words, a thing she did not allow during her lifetime, read her books…or at least whole letters or chapters when seeking the truth of the matter.

  12. Godly respect, however you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG. He's misleading you all. The early pioneers WOULD NOT be able to join our church. Sister White, clearly wrote they didn't believe in a trinity. Shame on you for creating this video, it's completely full of errors!!!

  13. There are also those groups who still support WO and are militant about it, and others who feel that God’s people will come out of the church, even after EGW has said over and over, not to leave the ark which is Gods true Church.

  14. Pastor I am a little confused. We are not part of any movement but are SDA Jews. We keep the Passover feast and a couple of the others. We do not impose them on no one else to keep them. Is it wrong for us to be keeping the feasts? I know our SDA brothers and sisters in the SDA synagogue in Nazareth also keep the feast. Just a little confused about these movements. I have never heard of them.

  15. those who are engaged in proclaming the third angels message are searching the scriptures upon the same plan that father miller adopted. (RH Nov 25 1884 par 23
    ( the sda church does not do this-most sda are unaware they exist) therefore- they sda church cannot give the correct warning message

    The third angel's message will not be comprehended, the light which will
    lighten the earth with its glory will be called a false light, by those who refuse to
    walk in its advancing glory. The work that might have been done, will be left
    undone by the rejecters of truth, because of their unbelief{RH, May 27, 1890 par. 6
    Read the she entire article— she is saying sdas like the jews, how the nailed jesus, will also nail the messages when it comes—– so the sda church cannot give the correct message if they dont know what it is

    how many times was jesus tested..(3×3) Three—- read story of redemptiom chapter 5—- jesus was shut in three times before he was given,access to save man… then three times in the wilderness…. then three more times with the cross—- if christ things our example in all things.. then the we get three test…(3×3). … the sabbath is the final test she says many times—- read early writings about the platform…. she calls out the test…—–

  16. live give our life to god creator jesus christ have faith trust obey god creator take creator jesus Medicine daily be healed daily. prepare to meet your maker god creator jesus honor your creator jesus way you live your life Revelation 14

  17. Jeremia, 6, 16: 16 So spricht der HERR: Tretet hin an die Wege und schaut und fragt nach den Pfaden der Vorzeit, welches der gute Weg ist, und wandelt darauf, so werdet ihr Ruhe finden für eure Seelen! Sie aber sprechen: »Wir wollen nicht darauf wandeln!«
    Bei uns sind die Pfade der Vorzeit die Geschichte der Milleriten. Sie waren unsere Pioniere. Psalm 11,3: Wenn die Fundamente eingerissen werden, was soll der Gerechte tun?
    Unsere Fundamente wurden zwischen 1840-1844 gelegt. Dieses Fundament beinhaltet die Wahrheiten, die auf den prophetischen Karten von 1843 und 1850 beschrieben sind. Ellen White bestätigt diese Karten immer und immer wieder, kurz noch vor ihrem Tod. Sie sagt wir sollten sicher auf dieser Plattform stehen. Und die 2520 stehen nun einmal auf beiden Karten und sind leicht anhand der Bibel zu zeigen. Leider sind wir Laodizea und schon so abgefallen von unseren Fundamenten, dass wir gar keine Ahnung mehr haben, woher wir kommen und wie unsere Anfänge waren. Wir haben für die Zukunft nichts zu befürchten, es sei denn wir vergessen, wie Gott uns in der Vergangenheit geführt hat, so Ellen White.
    Wir haben jedoch alles zu befürchten, wenn wir nicht Busse tun und unsere Fundamente studieren und zurück gehen zu unseren Anfängen. Dieser Mann zitiert vielleicht Ellen G White, verleugnet sie aber komplett und nennt sie indirekt eine falsche Prophetin. Denn sie hat sich unmissverständlich ausgedrückt und besteht auf diese prophetischen Karten und somit auch die 2520. William Miller wurde von Engel Gottes geleitet während seines Studiums. Leider steht auch immer wieder: "und sie wollten nicht hören". Wie schade! Wir sollten unsere Bibel kennen und Gott bitten, dass wir ein Unterscheidungsvermögen erhalten. Passt auf, dass ihr nicht in die Irre geführt werdet. Denn Satan läuft umher wie ein brüllender Löwe…. es ist gefährlich, Licht, dass Gott sendet abzulehnen. Die Menschen, welche Noahs Botschaft verwarfen sind in den Fluten umgekommen. Zu jeder Zeit schickte Gott Botschafter mit einem Inhalt, dass um Leben und Tod ging. Zu sagen, es ist kein Test, ist eine Lüge und eine Friede und Sicherheit Botschaft. Natürlich sind nicht nur die 2520, sondern andere Wahrheiten eine Testbotschaft. Es gibt nicht tausende verschiedene Wahrheiten, sonst könnten wir in irgendeine andere Denomination gehen. Dort wo es uns eben so passt und denken, Gott ist ja ein Gott der Liebe und er wird schon verstehen wenn ich die Gemeinde wechsle. Es kommt ja auf den Beweggrund an… Ja, Gott ist ein Gott der Liebe, aber es kommt ihm sehr wohl auf die Lehre an, er nimmt es sehr genau damit und er möchte so angebetet werden wie ER es möchte und nicht wie wir denken. Das finden wir in der ganzen Bibel. Sonst müssten wir ja den Sabbat auch nicht so genau nehmen, ist ja kein Prüfstein… Nein, wenn wir so denken, haben wir ein völlig falsches und verzehrtes Gottesbild. Der Sabbat und nicht nur dieser wird zum Prüfstein und wenn Gott das Fundament unserer Gemeinde gelegt hat zwischen1840 und 1844, so tut nun gut daran, diese zu studieren. Gott wird nicht hernach kommen und dieses Licht wieder nichtig machen. Licht bleibt Licht, Wahrheit bleibt Wahrheit. Gott ist ein Gott der Ordnung. Wenn wir diese 2520 und andere Prophezeiungen dieser beiden Karten ablehnen, lehnen wir Gott und unsere Prophetin ab. Denn die 2520 ist die klarste und schönste Prophezeiung, die es gibt und eine Verheissung für uns STA. Wenn wir erst einmal das Ausmass der 2520 verstehen, können wir nur noch staunen. Gott ist der grösste wunderbarste Zahlenmeister, Palmoni. Er ist der grösste Mathematiker, Er ist der König der Könige. Welch einem Gott dienen wir!

  18. If someone was preaching the gospel, claiming to be a Christian, and said that God is Zeus, Baal or Satan himself. We would not say that we can still accept the gospel that he is preaching because the doctrine of God is not a salvation issue.
    What this video is actually implying is that we should believe a definite doctrine about God; the Tri-unity God.

    This is false teaching. Without God, there is no gospel; knowing God is the most important thing. John 17:3

    I like that my comment was muted on the previous version of this video. Very non-Catholic to silence someone who non-offensively comments about something that contradicts your teaching.

  19. Why are these movement false? They are by default because we have all the truth. That makes everything new either error or unnecessary distraction. Isn't that exactly what the laodicean message says? Wake up? How can we proclaim the sabbath oGod still living in the pagan papal gregorian calendar…we can't. The Feast, along with the luni-solar calendar of the Creator is necessary in proclaiming the sabbath to the world. And the trinity doctrine is an attack on the first commandment and hence not at all a unnecessary side issue. It is an attack on Gods law and was not believed by the foundrs of our church it only entered in the 1930s.

    We must not
    think, “Well, we have all the truth, we understand the main pillars of our
    faith, and we may rest on this knowledge.” The truth is an advancing truth, and
    we must walk in the increasing light.”2

     A spirit of
    Phariseeism has been coming in upon the people who claim to believe the truth
    for these last days.  They are
    self-satisfied.  They have said, “We have
    the truth.  There is no more light for
    the people of God.”  But we are not safe when we
    take a position that we will not accept anything else than that upon which we
    have settled as truth.  We should take the Bible, and investigate it
    closely for ourselves.  We should dig in
    the mine of God’s word for truth.  “Light
    is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart.”  Some have asked me if I thought there was any
    more light for the people of God.  Our
    minds have become so narrow that we do not seem to understand that the Lord has
    a mighty work to do for us.  Increasing
    light is to shine upon us; for
    “the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto
    the perfect day."

    Those who cling to old
    customs and hoary errors have lost sight of the fact that light is ever increasing upon the path of all who follow
    [Yahushua]; truth is constantly unfolding to the people of [Yah]. We must be
    continually advancing if we are following our Leader. It is when we walk in the
    light that shines upon us, obeying the truth that is open to our understanding,
    that we receive greater light. We cannot be excusable in accepting only the
    light which our fathers had one hundred years ago. If our God-fearing fathers
    had seen what we see, and heard what we hear, they would have accepted the
    light, and walked in it. If we desire to imitate their faithfulness, we must
    receive the truths open to us, as they received those presented to them; we
    must do as they would have done, had they lived in our day.

  20. @ Steve Wohlberg: The Bible is crystal clear about prophets: (Deut 18, 21 – 22)

    21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

    22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Now this is not a false test, but it is a test Ellen White did not pass.
    Using her as proof of anything is something you should not do.

    "I have seen that the 1843 chart (Wm. Miller's) was directed by the hand of the Lord and that it should not be altered that the figures were as he wanted them." EARLY WRITINGS p. 74 edition 1882. William Milles chart contained the 2520 vision.

    Now I believe he was wrong, so I am not arguing Millers case here, but Ellen White was even in 1882 holding on to an angel that didn't know right from wrong, and this is not the only example.

    Here is an other:

    "Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a work to do there before the Lord comes.

    Such a view is calculated to take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under the message of the third angel; for those who think that they are yet to go to Jerusalem will have their minds there, and their means will be withheld from the cause of present truth to get themselves and others there.

    I saw that such a mission would accomplish no real good, that it would take a long while to make a very few of the Jews believe even in the first advent of Christ, much more to believe in His second advent. I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing and that souls all around them in this land could be helped by them and led to keep the commandments of God, but they were leaving them to perish.

    I also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up; and that Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the Lord into these things now, in the gathering time, to keep. " EW p 75, 1882

    Living in Israel, I was in Jerusalem one month ago visiting the "King of Kings" congregation, and I can testify to the fact that Old Jerusalem have never been in better shape. Nighter have there been more Jewish believers in Yeshua sins the time his brother ran the congregation here, with 60 congregations and somewhere between 15 000 – 30 000 believers in HaAretz. Maybe it took time, but they are here, and as you very well know, also in USA, close to a million Messianic Jews and Hebrew roots followers.

    Having grown up as a SDA it more than angers me a little that I have been told lies about the so called "Spirit of prophecy" all my life.

    It is time to stop that.
    It is time to embrace Jewish believers in Yeshua, even if we should disagree in some details. And it is time to leave the false teachings of a false prophet that didn't even see the clearest prophecy in the entire Tanach; that the Jews would return to Israel in the end of days. I have news for you all, they are here, fullfilling Hosea 3.

  21. Amen bro I so share your experience on social net work and in real every day life in my socializing with other SDA with different pre- and suffixes to their name. I understand it to be a new form of Judaizing/Talmudism slipping into our church no longer in silence but by a flood…Behind it in reality it is nothing short of the Jesuit counter reformation agenda.

  22. No offense intended, but I decided not to get involved with the SDA when I realized they don't honor God's holy convocations ("feasts"). Disappointing, as I thought a denomination that keeps the sabbath would do that, too. Why only keep ten commandments? Why do you refer as much to "your" prophet as you do to scripture? I keep as many of His commandments as I can, not just the ones EG White emphasized. The Lord has had many prophets, not just her. Blessings anyway. Keep doing your best to obey what you know.

  23. What does the word "keep" mean in this text?

    "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus" (Rev. 14:12).

    What does the word "keep" mean?
    What does it mean to "keep" God's commands?


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